Friday, November 12, 2010

In Favor of a Catching Competition This Spring

In 2003, Bernie Williams looked to be about done manning centerfield. He was only one year removed from a tremendous 2002 campaign, but after only playing 119 games in 2003 and with bad knees in centerfield to boot, the Yankees weren't content just letting Williams flounder around in center (his UZR was -20.2 in 2003 after -16.2 in 2002) and in the off-season they brought in Kenny Lofton as a free agent and told Williams he could fight it out with Lofton for CF and Ruben Sierra for DH. That's tough love for one of the most important Yankees of the past few decades, but it was just what Williams needed. That tough love--that competition--lit a fire under Williams. Williams would never be that pre-2003 player again, but at least in 2004 he gave the Yankees what he had given them in 2004, beat out Lofton in CF*, and, more importantly, he worked hard to win the job--and stuck around for two more years after that.
Montero will righfully have to earn it this Spring (LoHud)

The Yankees are in a similar situation with Jorge Posada. They have a very important player to their organization, a player who has probably been one of the top catchers of all-time (at least on the offensive side), a border-line Hall of Famer. But Posada's defense has gotten so bad and his hitting isn't anymore to the point where you can excuse that defensive liability just because of the hitting he provides. Having gone through the entire slate of external back-up catchers and realizing that Posada was eventually was going to turn into a pumpkin like Williams did, Brian Cashman and the Yankees organization has done a good job of stockpiling catching prospects. Jesus Montero, Austin Romine, Francisco Cervelli, Gary Sanchez, JR Murphy and others fill the Yankees organization throughout and provide themselves with an opportunity to not go out there and pay for old, mediocre players (as they did with Lofton in 2004).

But they shouldn't just hand the reigns of the DH to Posada nor the hands of the catching game to Montero, Romine, or Cervelli. After the 2007 season, the Yankees decided to hand the pitching over to a youth movement without any competition. Ian Kennedy and Phil Hughes managed to win zero games in 2008 as the Yankees back-of-the-rotation starters. Now this would be fine if the Yankees could afford a rebuilding year because look at what Hughes and Kennedy did this past season--they won a combined 27 games in each of their first full years as starters. But this is the Yankees and with most of their top players on the wrong side of the baseball age, they need to field a team next year that will make the playoffs.

So I'm glad to see that Brian Cashman said that anyone who catches for the Yankees will have to earn it. Heck, I would bring in every catcher who will accept a non-guaranteed deal. One look at what happened to John Buck shows that you never know where you'll find a decent catcher. And it will create even more compeition. Maybe Jorge Posada will come into came in incredible shape to prove everyone he deserves to catch. Maybe Jesus Montero will show up 25 pounds lighter and hit so well in the spring the Yankees won't have any choice. Maybe Austin Romine will have shown enough development for the Yankees to throw him into the fire. Maybe Francisco Cervelli will have figured out a way to be good enough behind the plate defensively and offensively that the Yankees can afford to have him squat behind there for half the season. But I like the idea of creating a competition. Light a fire under someone's ass; the person who succeeds under those types of circumstances is the person you want most on your team anyways.

*I had totally forgot that Kenny Lofton was healthy for the Yankees postseason/on the roster. I know that he got into an argument with Mariano Rivera in September and I know they sent him to the Phillies in the off-season (and I know he's hated the Yankees since), but I had totally forgot he was on that ALCS roster. I had totally forgotten how he had hit a home run in the first game. And then I definitely had blocked out that Joe Torre sat him as the Yankees collapse, even sitting him against the gimpy Curt Schilling who Lofton could have tested with his bunting. By the time Torre got Lofton back into the lineup was Game 7 (as the DH) and it was way too late then. I'm not saying they would have won had they started Lofton, but, jeez, wouldn't that have been an easy roster shakeup, Joe?

5 comments:

  1. I'm a little late to the party on this one but a few points...

    From what I remember some of the logic for signing Lofton was that Steinbrenner was envious of what Juan Pierre had done to them on the basepaths in the 2003 World Series. Whether or not Cashman was merely a front for Steinbrenner in this matter is debatable (although in hindsight it is apparent that Cashman had been growing cold on Bernie Williams).

    Bernie had a hot start to the 2003 season, hurt his knee, and was never really the same. Coming into 2004, it looked like they were going to use both Tony Clark and Travis Lee at 1B with Giambi at DH, leaving Bernie Williams and Kenny Lofton to fight it out for CF. Unlike Cashman (and Steinbrenner), Joe Torre was not going to hand the position over to Lofton so easily (no doubt in my mind that Bernie had the inside track, despite missing the end of spring training with an apendectomy) and Lofton showed his frustration when Torre batted him at the bottom of the lineup during the opener in Japan (apparently his promise that he would be willing to park cars for the Yankees lasted only so long as he thought his job was guaranteed).

    So while I understand your logic for this argument, I feel like Bernie never really had to worry too much about losing playing time (although he did basically lose the job the next year when they called up Robinson Cano and shifted Tony Womack to the outfield).

    Nevertheless, competition is good. At the same time, the players who are fighting for Jorge's job should realize that they have a lot to prove if they want to take the job away from a World Series champion and former All Star.

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  2. I mean the NYT article I posted to basically says that Cashman called Bernie and told him that he was going to be moving him and that he was going to have to play for his job. There may have never really been a competition, but even the appearance of such is one that matters. I'm pretty sure the Yankees want to hand the catching job to Montero no matter what, but the appearance of a competition at least makes Jorge feel like he has a chance.

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  3. I agree...the one thing I will say is that they shouldn't let the competition drag on too long into Spring Training. By the middle of March, they should make a decision, especially if it's going to be Montero, as he will need a lot of time behind the plate.

    Assuming the Yankees resign Andy Pettitte, I would imagine that Posada would continue to catch Andy Pettitte. It would still allow him to get time behind the plate and Pettitte, by pitching standards, is not terribly taxing on a catcher (holds runners on incredibly well, doesn't throw a lot of wild pitches, etc). Plus, the two have had a long term working relationship that has worked well.

    Here is how I think the Yankees would like to play it out:
    Jesus Montero catches about 100 games
    Francisco Cervelli/Another Veteran catches 30-40 games
    Posada catches 20-30 games (mostly Pettitte starts)

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  4. I feel like the best reason for the competition is to see how Montero performs with the added pressure. Personlly i feel like Cervelli had his Shane Spencer-like days in the sun early last year, and he is out of the picture. Jorge is too old and beat up and poor defensively to play catcher every day. There is no doubt that there are many games where he will not be behind the dish as they have already told Jorge. I like the competition for positions. i am not even opposed to platooning--- maybe frisco gets some games along with montero as he gets phased in.

    I am always one to root for all NY teams, and i was pretty into the Mets starting with Gooden's rookie year ( i think it was '85). My favorite player was Gary Carter and him coming to the Mets made me an instant fan. That mets team had some successfull platoons: Mookie and Dykstra, Backman and Teufel, and of course HoJo and Mrs. Nancy Lopez---Ray Knight. I still remember Mookie's famous words from the videotape of the 1986 World Series where he says "The ball shall not pass without offering!"

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  5. Ben, I don't think that's how things will play out. I think there's a better chance that Posada catches more than half the games than he catches 20. I think that it will look something like this if Montero wins the job:

    Montero: 72
    Posada: 45
    Cervelli: 45

    Or something like that. I just think they're going to try to catch Posada there for at least 1/4 of the games--since his bat doesn't carry as much value as just a DH) and also to ease Montero in--with Cervelli getting some games behind the plate as well. Remember, A-Rod will need more DH days next year too so the DH spot isn't always going to be open.

    BTW, last year the starts went: Cervelli (80), Posada (78), Moeller (4)

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